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In this episode of the Native Yoga Toddcast, Todd sits down with Polly Green, a professional empath, psychic, and medium, to explore intuition, empath abilities, psychic awareness, and spiritual growth.

Polly’s journey is both inspiring and unique. From growing up as a highly sensitive child in a challenging household to adventuring as a whitewater kayaker, Polly’s early experiences shaped her awareness of energy, emotions, and intuition. Her path led her to India and Bali, where she deepened her spiritual practice through yoga, meditation, and mindfulness, strengthening her connection to her empathic and psychic abilities.

Now based in California, Polly works with clients to understand and navigate their empathic gifts, strengthen intuition, and live with clarity and confidence.

Whether you are an empath seeking guidance, someone exploring psychic abilities, or simply curious about spiritual growth and intuition, this episode provides practical insights, inspiring stories, and tools for personal transformation.

Key Takeaways from this Episode

  • Understanding Empathy: How empaths feel others’ emotions and how to manage emotional overwhelm.
  • Cultural Influence: Lessons from India and Bali on spiritual practices, intuition, and energy awareness.
  • Intuition & Spiritual Guidance: How listening to your inner voice and connecting with spiritual entities can bring clarity and support.
  • Overcoming Fears: Using fear as a catalyst for personal growth, adventure, and unexpected opportunities.

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Welcome to Native Yoga Toddcast, so happy you are here. My goal with this channel is to bring inspirational speakers to the mic in the field of yoga, massage, body work and beyond. Follow us at Native yoga and check us out at nativeyogacenter.com. All right, let's begin. Hello and welcome to Native Yoga Toddcast. I have a guest for you today. Her name is Polly Green. Polly is how do I even define Polly? Polly? Polly is an amazing person. I can't wait for you to hear this conversation I had with her. She has got a lot of attributes, a lot of talents, a lot of skill, and she's just a down to earth, really sweet person. And I think instead of listing all that here, you're going to find it all out as you go through this episode. Please visit her. Her website is

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//www.pollyandtheotherside.com, her Instagram, matches handle at@Polly.and.theotherside. And as always, please send us a letter to let us know what you think. Reach out to us on social media via or email. We always appreciate it, and I recommend schedule a session with Polly if you have any questions, comments or thoughts after hearing this, because she's really, really done some amazing work. So on that note, let's go ahead and get started. Thank you. I feel super honored to have this chance to have Polly Green here today, and Polly, thank you so much for being here. And I just like to ask you how you're feeling today.

Polly Green:

I Well, thank you very much for having me on Todd, and I'm feeling super happy and grateful. I'm really excited, actually, to dig into things with you. So yeah, thanks for having me on the show.

Todd McLaughlin:

Well, I really appreciate it. You know, I guess the first I just want to jump straight in and ask you, what does it mean to be an empath?

Polly Green:

So an empath is a person who is able to feel what other people feel, and oftentimes it can be overwhelming and confusing for empaths, because they feel at such a deep level, and a lot of times it can be intense and it can be heavy, and there can be a lot of sadness, or there can be a lot of guilt and grief associated with that and that. That is a huge attribute of being an empath is being able to feel what other people feel on a really deep level, to the point where they feel like it's theirs. And also some other attributes are you may, if you're an empath, you may feel really overwhelmed in crowds or in cities, or you may feel get emotional really easily. Also, a trait is people may feel really comfortable with telling you everything. Strangers, like off the sidewalk, might just come up and tell you their whole life story, kind of thing. You may have really good energy with animals. Like animals tend to have a really good feeling around you and you with them. So those are kind of some some traits and then, but the main thing that people that I work with typically come to me for is because they're feeling overwhelmed with all of those these emotions and energies that they don't know how to process. Yeah, and a lot of times it's because it's not theirs, but they don't know it's not theirs because it feels like it's theirs. So a lot of the work that I do with people is help them to recognize, oh, wait a second, a lot of times it can be from a parent or a spouse. A lot of times it's a parent, though, and as a child, you may have learned to help that parent as children, a lot of times we take on that responsibility for our parents, and so learning how to distinguish what's your energy and what's not your energy. And then it's so empowering. And then a lot of times. We end up not being in our bodies. And then, so the process that I work with with my clients is figuring out, okay, let's get this energy out of your body, let's call you back in your body. And then a lot of the practices feeling what that's like, oh, okay, like, this is my neutral this. That's what I call it. It's like, that's what I feel like when I'm fully regulated and when I'm in my body, and then and what it feels like to be comfortable in the skin. Because a lot of times as empaths, we feel really uncomfortable in our own skin, and almost like something's wrong with us, like that's how I felt, and I know a lot of my clients feel and it's not that at all. It's just that you're feeling all of this that's not yours, and it is uncomfortable. It's like,

Todd McLaughlin:

Yeah, amazing. How did you come along this journey was were you something? Was it something where, as a child, you were very aware that you were able to relate to people very easily. Was it something that you a quality that you had from a very young age? Was there a shifting point where you went from not recognizing yourself as having empathic qualities to all of a sudden coming into an understanding that you do? Can you talk a little bit about your own personal journey? Yeah, sure.

Polly Green:

Well, as a as a young child, I always had that, that sensitivity to energy and um, and I'm a child of an alcoholic also, and so and so. I learned at a very young age to tune into my parents what was going on with her and and I took on a lot of responsibility for that at a young age and that, but I didn't know that that's what I was doing. And then in my 20s, I had a boyfriend whose mother had crossed over, and that's when I realized that I was a medium. So all of a sudden, I started hearing her, mostly, she was there telling him that she loved him, and but I could hear her like she was right here, talking in my ear, and then, and then one night, she actually came into my body and spoke to me through, spoke to him through my body. And I was like, out of my body, floating up on the ceiling, watching everything, which was freaky. I was like, What the heck is going on? And it freaked out him. It freaked out me. And so that's when I kind of started on this path, like, and it was more so like, how do I deal with life on these terms? You know, it's not something I really wanted, or, you know, you weren't.

Todd McLaughlin:

It was more like you weren't, like, reading books and going, That sounds so cool. I wish I could be like that and then trying to cultivate it. It just kind of landed on your lap.

Polly Green:

Yes, and I was also really susceptible to lower vibrational spirits as well. So that was super freaky. And then what I realized, so I was in my 20s, and what I realized is that when I was in nature, I felt the best, especially being in the water. And for empaths, what I've learned over time, and I just did it naturally, is like water is the instant way we can clear ourselves and get ourselves back into our bodies and feel regulated and clear energy that's not ours. So I got into whitewater kayaking, and I was on the river all the time, and I made it my career path. So that's what I sort of dreamed of as a child, is being an athlete, and this ability to connect with the other side, and my abilities as an empath, I sort of thought was sort of like a burden, like I wanted nothing to do with it, actually. And I was even skeptical myself of, like, energy work and all that stuff. I was more of an athlete type of person, and like, very, you know, grounded. I was also into spirituality, though. I was on a spiritual path, starting from when I was about 18. So I was start, like, I was spiritually curious. I guess you could call it interesting, yeah, and I was in school at Boulder, at the University of Colorado. And the funny thing is, about yoga, you're gonna love this is, is I? Because I was just searching. I was like, Okay, I know there's something more than this. I know there has to be something more to life than you know, what I saw, you know, the traditional path and all that. And I was like, All right, I'm gonna find this. What is it? And then so I started dabbling, and I walked into an ashtanga yoga class with Richard Freeman, and I was like, Oh my God, I wish I was started when I was 18, but it was just at that point. It was just so overwhelming. I was looking around at everyone doing my source style, and I was like, What the heck is this? And I explored, like meditation. Situation, like I went down all those tracks because it was available in Boulder at that time. This was in the 90s, and but none of it really rung true for me. What really wrong true was being in nature and the outdoors, and so I just dove in head first and and then that's what led me into whitewater kayaking, and that one, what ended, ended up happening is a few of my kayaking friends died because it was an extreme sport, and I had my the first friend that crossed over. I had a dream about him two days before he died, and it was like he was right there, like in my dream, and he was in Chile, and I was in America, and I was like, that's weird. Why? I wonder why, like, I had such a vivid dream. Well, then two days he crossed over, two days later, and then I, then I kept dreaming about him, Todd. It was like he was right there, like he was somebody that I worked with on the river, and we it was like, I would have dreams we'd be in meetings together, or guide meetings, and he'd be like, sitting right there. It was unbelievable. I was like, He's not gone. And so when he crossed over, I, I mean, it was sad that he wasn't in his body anymore, but I didn't even feel really grief, because I was like, pretty still right here. You guys, yeah, so then that made me really want to be able to use my abilities to help people and to to be able to understand them more and stuff like that. And then I had another friend crossover kayaking and it was the same thing. I would dream about him, and then I started inviting him on the river with me. I was like, Hey, you want to come kayaking, and he'd be so excited. And I would have him paddle for me, like I'd when I got to like a waterfall or something hard, I would say, Hey, you want to paddle my boat for me. And and he would get all excited. And then I'd have a great line, and it was like I wasn't alone. So and then what happened was I was, I was still trying to figure out how to navigate everything, like from a spiritual perspective, really want, really knowing there was more that I could be doing with my my abilities, but I didn't know how, and I started on the yoga path in 2007 and I just kind of stumbled into Ashtanga Yoga because of kayaking. So I thought that it would help me with my kayaking, help me be able to focus.

Todd McLaughlin:

Yeah, and was that so that just, I just want to try to clarify, was that your Richard Freeman introduction, or was the Richard that was way, way back, you really, not really ready to start doing the yoga, and then when you started coming back to the yoga, what was your I'm sorry I didn't want to interrupt you, but where, what, where did that lead you

Polly Green:

well again, are so lucky Todd, I will. I was in New Zealand, and I was like, All right, I want to. I knew John Scott, No, Peter Sanson. Oh, nice. You know Him

Todd McLaughlin:

the name, but I don't, I can't put

Polly Green:

a very kind of low profile, but he's right up the chain. He's like, nice. So anyway, I couldn't have learned from anyone better. And then he would do these workshops all the time. Yeah, write it down. Peter Simpson, if you ever get a chance, he's like, Guruji. It's like, he channels. I mean, it's anyways. So he's amazing. Anyways, what was I saying? Oh yeah, he would do these workshops all the time, and people would come from all over the world, and they would start talking about Mysore and stuff. And I was like, whoa. And I'd always wanted to go to India, starting from when I was in my 30s, but I wanted to go for yoga, but I didn't want to go if I didn't feel kind of sort of confident in my practice. So I was like, Well, I'm I'm gonna go to my store, but I want to feel good with primary series. That was sort of my goal. So it took me about five years, and then I went to my store, and I had just recently gotten sober. So I find the other thing with empaths is that we tend to need, or tend to gravitate towards addictions to help us numb the sensitivity so that we don't have to feel so much and don't have to absorb all this stuff. And so that was me to a tee. And so around all that same time, I got sober for the second time, and then, and then I went to my store, which was like, Whoa, so.

Todd McLaughlin:

And then when I got to so much for not feeling things, yeah. Yeah, let's really get you in your body. Let's really and you'll be feeling your knees in every part of your body after session and like, try to walk up the stairs after a Mysore session in my store, you're like, Okay, I'm feeling it. I'm feeling my body.

Polly Green:

Yeah, and, but not even only that. It wasn't the physical aspect for me so much because I was a professional athlete, so I was actually kind of wanting more exercise because but which I didn't have in my store, which kind of freaked me out, and so it made me want to but what I learned is that I wanted to be able to live my life not dependent on anything to be happy. That was kind of the goal that hit me that first time in my sore I was like, You know what? I'm really toxic. I'm really judgmental. Like, it kind of showed me all of these things about myself that were pretty confronting, and I didn't want to be like that, but I didn't know. I didn't I didn't know how to not be like that, but what I heard was you need to be in India like this is where you're going to learn what you need to learn, like kayaking and my sport and everything took me to that point, but I knew that if I just carried on that trajectory, I wasn't going to get the lessons spiritually and personally and stuff that I really needed in this lifetime. But so what I ended up doing was I went back to New Zealand, I sold all my stuff because I was living there, and I came back to India. And then India is really where I learned how to use my psychic abilities. I just found the right teachers. I found that in that place, because it is so spiritually open and accessible, it was just like, this is where I'm supposed to be, so in. But my goal was, I want to feel happy and or, you know, I want to feel good within my myself, without needing anything. And that was my goal. And so it took me about 10 years nice, a lot longer than I was expecting.

Todd McLaughlin:

But how long did you stay in India for? How long did you spend there on that well, about 10 years. Oh, you stayed in India for 10 years.

Polly Green:

Yeah, and I would go back between there and Bali. So I spent about four years going back and forth between Bali and, wow, in India. And then the rest of the time I was in India,

Todd McLaughlin:

pretty and in Mysore, moving around India.

Polly Green:

No, I moved around. So I was, I really was gravitating towards the north, like when I was in Mysore, it was great. But I knew I needed to get get up, like into the nature and the mountains and stuff. And so I the next time, when I went back, I went to way far north India, into Ladakh, which is, you know, very Buddhist and stuff, which I loved. And then I went to Rishikesh and the Ganges. Have you ever been to Rishikesh?

Todd McLaughlin:

No, have not been to the north? No, I want to go to Rishikesh. I really want to go to Varanasi. There's all those areas that I just think would be so fascinating and just looks like culturally, just unbelievable.

Polly Green:

You would love it. So that's where I mostly spent. Most of my time, was in Rishi cash and the Ganges became a real teacher for me and healer for me. And I spent a lot of time in that river and kayaking. No, like, I would just go in there and stand kind of like, now how cold plunging is really popular. It's kind of like a cold clinch. And except for, you know, it's this, they consider the Ganges River to be a goddess and really magical. And I swear, I it is. And I've been on a lot of rivers all around the world, and the Ganges is different. You go in there, and I would just stand there, and it was like, like, the river would just clear everything off of me, and I would come out, and I just sit on the sand, and then I just cry. I would just, and then I do that just over and over and over and over and then, and then I was like, I started to get myself back. It was like, Oh, this is what it feels like to be in this body without all this other stuff. And it was, I just,

Todd McLaughlin:

yeah, wow. That's awesome. Paulie, that's so cool.

Polly Green:

Yeah, wow. It was amazing. And then, of course, like, I had amazing yoga teachers, like I was practicing with Louise Ellis there, which she was great and and then that's how come I ended up learning about David Griggs, and I practiced with him in the south. So then I went to Southern India to practice with him. And then that was right be. So I did 10 weeks there when he was teaching there in Kovalam. And. Then, and then covid hit, and I was supposed to go back to Rishi cash after that, but I had got, I had gotten a message that I was going to get an invitation, and then I was supposed to say yes. Like, this was the guidance that I had gotten. And I was like, okay, and I was kind of waiting for this invitation. Well, then someone told me about this town that's kind of close to where I was practicing with David, and she invited me to go there, to this town that I'd never been to, and I was on the beach, and I was like, that's the invitation. Okay, so I went after the the intensive with David. I went to this town that was right up the coast, still in the south, and it was awesome. You would love it. It's like, the most beautiful beach. And it was just, and I was just in this town, I was like, wow, I think I could live here, like, I just had that sense, like, I would like it. And then, boom, covid came, and I was in this, like, Paradise place. And I was like, okay and so, and I didn't end up going back to Rishikesh. I just stayed there for like, three years. Wow, wow. Oh. It was the most best time of my life, while all of the other rest of the world was like, Yeah, hating it. I was, like, on this most beautiful beach in paradise.

Todd McLaughlin:

Wow. What was the name of that place? Where was that? You said, Not Cove, lum you

Polly Green:

it's called varkala. Varkala. So if you ever chance, and

Todd McLaughlin:

this is north of Goa, north of gore, so south, south of Goa, gotcha. It's very, very south, like trivandundrum area, like way south.

Polly Green:

All right, you fly into trevenone, wow.

Todd McLaughlin:

Oh my gosh. I have so many questions for you. After everything you just said, let me start with so the first question I want to touch upon, but then there's one that follows, but I think this first one will be important. First, how, what is the difference? Or how would we differentiate between three words, Empath, psychic and medium? Hey, Are these all like little strands off of the same thing? Are they all the same thing? Are they all very different?

Polly Green:

What's that super great question. Okay, let's start with, okay, a medium is someone who can connect with the other side, specifically so mediums can connect with, like, typically, under the umbrella medium name is someone that can connect with someone who's crossed over, okay, like, so someone who's left this body died and is on the other side. That's typically what a medium is. Okay, a psychic is someone who can get information beyond the five senses. So you may hear like when I was telling you how I heard the mother of my boyfriend. So that's clairaudience. You may have heard about, like the Claires. So it's clairvoyance, clairaudience, Clair sentience and Claire. So it's feeling, seeing, hearing and knowing the other one will come to me. So those are kind of the four senses. And not every say psychic has those senses, like somebody might see things, or somebody might hear things, or somebody might feel things, or somebody might know things. But for me, I have all four and then, but not everybody does like somebody might feel stronger with see, you know, getting visions or hearing or knowing or feeling. And then, so that's those kind of separated and then an empath is what I described before, is somebody that feels other people's feelings. Or, yeah, an empath is somebody, if I was to boil it down, is somebody that is able to feel what someone else is feeling. Yes, does that make sense? 111, but a lot of times you can be all three, or maybe you can be two, like they're psychic mediums. You know, it kind of, I get it. I get it. Yeah. So not everybody that's an empath has all these abilities, but a lot of times I do, and a lot of times the clients that come to me do, and that's, I think, why they're drawn to me, is because I help them unpack all of this. And then, because, when I started working myself as a medium. I realized, wait a second, like, people don't really need me to do you know, I was like, which was maybe a bad business strategy, but I was like, I think, I think I could help them connect basically without me, yeah. And so that's the work I do now, which is actually really gratifying. I like it a lot because. Because it empowers you. You know, it empowers my clients to be able to connect on their own, on their own, yes, whenever they want. Yes, which is so great.

Todd McLaughlin:

Yes, good point. So my next question then, when you start talking about going to India and feeling like because it's a spiritually adept place. There's just a long history of people asking questions and experimenting and meditating and searching, and there's just such a rich culture. I grew up in America, where I grew up in a Catholic Christian sort of experience, where I was taught to that psychic and mediumship and these other things were evil, dangerous, bad of the devil of the East, right? So I always had this feeling of like, Oh no, that stuff is like, I shouldn't believe in that or that, that that maybe is dangerous. So, I guess my So, I guess my question is, do you feel like India is more open to that because of such a long history of so many people having exposure to it that then, therefore there's maybe not as many negative connotations associated with it. And can you explain a little bit about how you help to maybe ease the process for folks that are feeling that they might have these abilities, but because of their cultural upbringing has been negatively associated with it. How to move past that?

Polly Green:

That's a great question. Todd, I feel like in India, yes, I to answer that question. First I felt well, it's gonna maybe sound kind of out there, but I felt personally, divinely guided, like, and also I felt so inspired. Because, you know, especially in Rishikesh, you know, yogis from 1000s of years, like, meditated in these caves up there, and energy, you can feel it. I mean, especially if you're an empath, like, which is the plus side of being an empath, is like you can feel the energy of them Todd like you go into these caves where these yogis, like these sages, meditated, oh my God, and you'd sit there and it was just like, like, my brain would Just go blank, and I'd be like, this is all better than any drug or anything you could ever do, like it was just easy and it was real, you know. And I was like, okay, like, this is what I want to figure out. Like they were on to something, you know, and, and, you know, I personally, I never wanted to use any of my gifts as, sort of, like party tricks or anything like that. But a lot of times you would hear about that, you know, like sages or yogis or, you know, people being able to, like, stay warm when it was freezing cold, and Himalayas meditating in these caves. And, like, how did they do that, you know, and be able to, like, materialize things. And so I feel like India is sort of the, you know, epicenter, and where it was respected, you know, being a yogi, being a spiritual person in India, oh, my God. Like you're so revered, you know, and it's just the best path you could be on. And I think that's what excited me there I was like, yes, like, this is what I've been wanting since I, you know, 18 years old. Like, I just had this feeling I wanted to be on this path. And here's all these people doing it, and it's like, supported and, you know, revered, even. And then I felt the results. It wasn't just like, you know, this kind of aimless search. It was like, oh, whoa. Like, there's something to this. You know,

Todd McLaughlin:

yes, yes. Good answer. Oh, okay, no, that was good. And then just to steer you toward the question about how the West interprets these skills and and maybe I'm seeing it very different from you. Maybe, maybe you're not seeing the way I saw that there. But do you, what are your feelings? I mean, obviously you're here in the West. Now you're in, you live in the United States, I believe now, right?

Polly Green:

Yeah, I'm back. Where are you? Where are you? By the way, I'm in California. Is where my family is, which is why I'm here now currently. All right, helping out with my family. Um. But no, I 100% agree, and it's even hard for me to be here still now sometimes. I mean, I left America, maybe, like, 30 years ago, and I never thought I'd come back here. I think because I was so I could see this, the culture, and I didn't really fit into it. I was like, this isn't really what I want, like, what people were kind of striving for here wasn't what I was striving for, like, what I was striving for. And what excites me, as you could tell, is like, what those sages are doing in the caves. Like, that was my aspiration. Like, I wanted to just be a yogi and live in a cave. Like I didn't want anything. You know, I wanted that. And so being back here is, like, kind of hard for me, actually, because it's a lot harder to connect. I do have to say it's, it's hard, like in India, as you know, like you're smelling incense, and everybody has an altar, and it's so devotional, and, like, there's temples everywhere. Like, it just is so much easier, I think, to connect into the spiritual world there, and it's so supportive, whereas here you're, like, searching for, like, I remember being in India for a long stint one time, and I came back and I was like, oh my god, target is like, The Temple of America.

Todd McLaughlin:

The target temple. Yeah, well, that's actually a really good observation, yeah. I mean, well, you're right. I mean, if we have a materialistic God, we're going to worship materialism. And yes, it's not any different. We just don't necessarily recognize it as a religious or spiritual thing. It's just a different I know that's so trippy, isn't it? Well, interesting.

Polly Green:

Yeah, yeah, so and then, but then to talk about what you're saying about the, I guess, their religious beliefs and stuff like that. Um, yeah, I mean, but it even if you're like, I don't know. I think all religions, if you look in their their their texts and stuff, have aspects of the supernatural, or, you know, spirit, obviously, it's spirituality like so, you know, is that

Todd McLaughlin:

interesting thing in relation to the fact that there's Jesus who's talking to God and having conversation? So why would we need to be so scared of that? What is, isn't that an interesting thing that no, but only one person should be able to have that ability. You know, we all do. Yeah, yeah.

Polly Green:

We all do. And that's what I'm I feel like, almost what I'm here to tell people on the planet in my life, is like, we all have that. And in yoga, I mean, it's talked about all the time that it's like, right in here. You know, it's right in our hearts, like and, and all we have to do is go in here and be able to connect. So, so yeah, on the on the side, though, I do want to bring this up, because I had this experience when I was in Bali. So there are, there is the dark and the light. I'm not gonna pretend like there isn't like. And when I first started opening up my abilities, I was like a kid in a candy store. I was like, Really, I can do that and like. So I started working on an energetic level that was like, let's say I was in kindergarten, as an energy practitioner. I, like, I was like, I'm gonna clear this whole, I don't know the, you know, I just got these very grandiose ideas. And in Bali, like, there was a lot of avenues where you can work with that stuff. And so I was going to all the things and doing the things and then, and then I just got flat like so. And then in Bali I had, I was learning, I was kind of had this mentorship with this Balinese priest there who was a huge amazing influence for me. And I went to him, and I was, I told him what happened, like, I got really sick, and after I did this clearing work, and he's like, Paulie, like, you're playing with fire, you because, especially in Bali, like there was, there is black magic. So, and he told me stories of like that, I don't even really want to repeat so, so, I mean, it can be used on the dark side as well. And so it's very important. I always tell people I work with, it's like, I only work with the highest divine light. And I think if you are listening to this, and if you're like, starting in on your abilities, it's like, really important that you're clear with what you're you're tapping into, because there is the opposite. And what he did for me in Bali, because I was doing energy work there, he's like, You need permission from the ancestors to do this work here, which was totally valid. And so what we did was, he called it my spiritual passport. And so he took me around to like, 12 of the most important temples in Bali, and, like, we prayed to the ancestors. And he asked that I be be given that permission to work on that level.

Todd McLaughlin:

There Interesting? Well, yeah, yeah. In India,

Polly Green:

I don't feel so much for the dark energy, but in Bali, it's very dual. It's, they're black. There's the black and the white, like, and you can feel it. So, anyways, um, anyways, I just wanted to throw that out there to say, like, there, there is. And, you know, before I got a harness on my abilities, I was tapping into the lower frequency energies, and they're there, like there's earthbound spirits you know, that are still walking around on the earth. And like you, it's possible to tap into that. So it's kind of like, and this is what I teach my clients too. It's like, how to have energetic boundaries, how to have discernment. Because for me, and especially if you drink alcohol, and why they call it spirits. Like I was really susceptible to Earthbound spirits when I when I used to drink alcohol, and that I would go into a blackout boom, like people would say you are, like Dr Jekyll and Mr. Hyde will guess what? It's because somebody else was like, operating in the body here, interesting. And so that was also another big reason why I wanted to get sober, was because, holy crap, like, that's really that is scary, yeah, you know, and why people do horrible things under the influence of alcohol. A lot of times it's not even them. That's my perspective.

Todd McLaughlin:

So amazing. Anyway, where do you where do you feel? I seems to me that science and this metaphysical world is starting to really prove one another support one another. There's a incredible amount of literature amongst the quantum mechanics or quantum physics crowd that's opening more and more potentiality for everything that you're speaking of, so that the skeptic, if reading even from the scientific side, might start to go, Hmm, well, they're kind of pointing that this is very, very possible. What are you noticing in terms of of all that, like skepticism versus open minded, open minded skeptic, where do you? Where's your feelings and thoughts on that?

Polly Green:

I feel like this is a great time because, you know, and I really like the work of Dr Joe Dispenza a lot, and I feel like he's trying to bridge those worlds, you know, between science and spirituality and quantum physics and stuff. And I love that he is measuring all that stuff. I feel like it's groundbreaking. I mean, I feel like it's really is, and I feel like I've always known this, like, that spontaneous healing can happen. Like, you know, all this stuff that that is happening, but what he's doing now is quantifying it scientifically, which I think is awesome, because it is so it's like and what I love about that is that it means that spirituality isn't like This woo, woo thing anymore, like it's actually being proven and, and I really do think it's cutting edge, to be honest with you, and, and that even high up, like medical establishments like Stanford and stuff like that are starting to take notice and be like, Oh, well, like, how can we like, if, if somebody has Parkinson's disease in a week later they don't like, what the heck? That's freaking awesome. Yeah, so, and in working with those you know that high vibrational frequency and meditation, and you know it in visualization. It's it's awesome.

Todd McLaughlin:

Oh my gosh, that's cool. Can you talk a little bit about how the idea that you said, as an empath, that maybe we might be having this really odd feeling uncomfortable, or something feels off, or I don't know why I'm feeling this way. And you know, maybe if I was to go to the psychologist or psychiatrist, they'd say, you know, you're having anxiety, and we need to treat the anxiety, and therefore, you know, there's different treatments. And so I'm curious, when you made mention of the fact that maybe where an empath is hearing the thoughts or or feeling the thought feelings of other people, and it's not necessarily ours or not necessarily yours or theirs. So how does one begin to identify that the feeling and or thoughts or emotions that I'm. Having are not mine, because, I guess that's a interesting place. Because if I'm, you know, I want to take responsibility for my my feelings, thoughts, emotions, but if there truly is this thing that I'm picking up on others and therefore, and like reflecting it or holding it or being that. How do we differentiate?

Polly Green:

Great question, Todd, I'll give you some really great ways to discern, okay, and for everybody listening, so like, let's say you're feeling really good. Like you're you did your practice. You're feeling regulated. You're like, feeling, you know, balanced and stuff. And then let's say you leave your Shala or whatever, and you you run into somebody on the sidewalk, and you instantly get a headache, or you get a sore throat, or you feel sad. And this is what I encourage you and people to start really taking notice of, like, Okay, wait a second. Five minutes ago, I felt fine, like, or, you know, I felt I like to call it my neutral, you know, it's like, all right, this is what I feel like when I'm, you know, yes. And then, if it happens suddenly, like that, and because you've been usually around a certain you know someone, a person, that's a telltale sign. And so that's one way to realize it another way, like for me. And if you've done a lot of a pasta, I've done a lot of a pasta too, you know how like they have you scan. You do body scans, which is a great skill to have, especially if you're an empath, because you can scan, start scanning your body, like, a lot, and being like, wait a second, I'm feeling like, like, sometimes, if I'm around, you know, toxic, toxic energy, it will, I'll just get like, this feeling of like, like toxic shock, and it's like, and I can almost feel it like running through my my body, and I'll be like, Wait a second. I wasn't feeling like that five minutes ago. Okay. Like, this person probably has something going on that I'm picking up on. Another another thing. And it can be confusing. If you don't know this, you'll think, Oh, I'm coming down with a cold or something. Or, you know, why? You know? So anyway, so that's kind of the first shop, also, if you're in a crowded environment, or, like, if you're doing healing work, especially like, if, like you do, or in the Shala, or it's really easy to pick up on other people's energy. So I'm, like, really vigilant about clearing my space all the time, clearing myself all the time, like, like I'm brushing my teeth. So I use like, Palo Santo or sage, or even, like, if you can't do that I have like, spray energy clearing sprays. And then I do have some quick commands that I say, just to clear my energy. It doesn't take long, like two minutes, but just being really aware of how you feel kind of from minute to minute as you go through your day. And then you can even have, like, you can even journal it. And then, and then, just starting to backtrack. Wait a second, I was feeling fine before then,

Todd McLaughlin:

yeah, it's so fascinating. You're right, yeah. And

Polly Green:

a lot of the symptoms can also be like, I just don't feel like myself. Like, have you ever had that feeling where, like, God, I just don't feel like myself, like, can't make decisions. I don't feel clear.

Todd McLaughlin:

Yeah, normally like this, but right now, this is odd, yeah, well, it's so fast, don't, don't you feel like, though, like we were like, I mean, a we were never trained in any of this, right? I mean, what kind of supportive systems do we have as children growing up that actually kind of fostered or helped us to understand this, I'd say very little, unless we had really cool parents to, you know, maybe guide us along. But I guess, like, for example, if I'm just like, have that same question that you just said, where you're just kind of like, gosh, it's just, I feel so weird. Like, this just isn't me. I mean, aren't we kind of in our current strategies, taught to think that something's wrong with us. Or, I mean,

Polly Green:

I always felt like something was wrong.

Todd McLaughlin:

What is wrong with me? Like, why? Yeah,

Polly Green:

tell you if you're listening and you feel like that nothing's wrong with you, you're probably pick and the collective energy, especially now, like, it's really easy, if you're an empath and sensitive, to pick up on all this collective drama happening, which is super hardcore and heavy and yeah, and I'm not saying be an ostrich and put your head in the sand, but it's like our I call it like spiritual hygiene. It's kind of like or. Right? I can take responsibility for what I put in my body and what I listen to and the people I'm around and like, it's like I'm responsible for, because I don't want to feel all that stuff, you know, so it makes me kind of extra vigilant. Like, I don't like to read the news or watch scary movies or anything like that. Like, why? Because it's super low frequency, and it's like, and it's not bypassing. And I know that gets thrown around all the time, like, Oh, you're just spiritually bypassing. But I, I really am not. It's like, I'm aware, but I know that to be on this earth and to make an impact, like I I need to feel good, like, I need to be the best version of myself I can so that I can then help others, you know. But if I get bogged down in all this collective blah, it's like, I it would probably kill me, like, if I really, like, dove into it, because it's, it's so heavy, and, yeah, you know, yeah, so

Todd McLaughlin:

isn't it, though, isn't it just to take a short little pause without going into details? Isn't it a little bit heavy, right now? Do you sometimes wonder that, has it always been heavy, and I'm just becoming more in tune, so I'm picking up on the heaviness. Because if we look around, you might, you know, you might come across some sort of idea that you're just like, flabbergasted with. And then you'll, you'll be checking somebody out and said, Yeah, I just want to see if this person is picking up on the same thing. So you start asking a few questions, and you find out, no, no or, I mean, you know. And then I'll, I don't know. I'm just, I just think, I wonder, is it because I'm getting a little bit more sensitive and in tune with things that I'm picking up on more? And this has always been here. These vibrations have always been around. I know I agree, and it's the white and the dark and all that stuff. It's always been there. It's just that now we're starting to sense that, oh my goodness, this stuff is here, and I just was oblivious to it. Or I guess probably both of these are true. Is there an increase of the intensity? I mean, it feels like there's like an increase of intensity. I'm trying to I'm having a hard time figuring out if it's, if it's me, or is it the world? And I'm guessing it's probably both, and probably both. Thank you. All right,

Polly Green:

I'm kidding for you. And yeah, it that's what it feels like to me, and it's but I guess, like on the positive side, and I'm kind of glad we're bringing this up. And it's like, through the work you're doing and through the work that I do, it's kind of like being a channel for the highest frequency of energy to flow through us, right when you're working with your people, and when I'm working with my people. And it's like, the more we can turn these lights on, and the more we can, the more we can channel high frequency energy. And I think that's the other cool thing. Like, when I was talking about the dark and white, like, I think, yes, it is getting extremely low frequency around here, but guess what? Like, we also, I also feel this huge opening is happening, and like, there's the opposite end of the scale, so it's kind of going like this. And what's her name, Dolores Cannon. I don't know if you've ever read any of her books. She was so ahead of her time, and she actually predicted this, and that there was, like, going to be kind of like a separating of the world, and so, so, so. And this is what's so exciting. Todd is like where you identify your energy is what world you go to. And this is what exactly happened to me when I was told you about varklaughlin. I was in this like paradise, while the rest of the world was like, you know, having the worst time of their life, I'm like, Oh, my God, this is because this is happening. Like I was so like worlds were that would have been I was in such a different reality,

Todd McLaughlin:

yeah, yeah. Literally, in paradise, two different worlds to like, almost existing on the same planet, but in two. So that's which would be hard, which would be easy and hard at the same time, easy, because cool and hard, because what the heck? How could this be? Do you know what I mean? Like, how could this be? Like, what?

Polly Green:

No, I don't know. I feel like our work can probably, like, on a cosmic level, or spiritual ever, like, why you've been called to do the work you do, or why I've been called to do the work I do. It's like, we're in this is what I got. I got this message at one point in time it was maybe around covid, I'm not sure, but is that that's our job? Is like, to help people that might be between the two worlds or, like, might be on a fence, like, Which am I gonna go? It's like, hey, come over here. You know, really, it's a lot. Better and, and, and that you have a choice, you know? And I guess that's what I want to empower people with too, is like we have a choice, yeah, and like, I feel like, the more people tap into that feeling of empowerment, because I feel like what's spreading now is kind of this virus of, like, hopelessness, you know. But I feel like the more we can tap into that high frequency of feeling empowered, you know, and doing what we can personally ourselves, then that's how things change, and that's why I went on that whole long journey in India. I was like, You know what, I can't change the world, but I can change myself, and so I'm going to do that because I have control over that. Yeah, so and, and that's what I teach my clients. And it's like, you know what, we do have control over our internal environment, and that's then what goes out into the world. You know, the more clear we are within ourselves, the more we are able to show up in a energy that feels good to other people, or be nice to that person at Costco that dropped their toilet paper off their cart, or whatever. You know, it's like, the more we can show up in the world in these small ways and be nice or say hi or smile or like, even acknowledge someone, you know, yes, that's how things are gonna change. Yeah, but it starts with us, you know. And it starts with being on that yoga mat, what you're doing, the work you're doing with your people. And it starts with, you know, the work I'm doing. So it's like, the more people can show up, and I think more and more people are showing up, and like realizing

Todd McLaughlin:

that's so cool, Paulie, I am with you. You know, as you're talking, it's reminding me of last year, I took our took my family to go. My wife's family lived up in Tennessee, so we went, we went on a rafting trip where we were going down a river, and we had a guide, and there's a big crew, a bunch of different boats all going down, and the way the guide explained every little nook and cranny of where the water was going to spin this way, where the water was going to go that way. We're going to hit this angle. We're going to come in on this angle, and then we're all going to go hard on this side. And and just such an intimate relationship with that river and how the water was flowing through it. Have you ever had any experiences on the water where you felt like just some sort of connection or portal, or in studying and studying the way water flows and and then obviously some dangerous situations, like, there's it like You said, you lost friends doing this. This is not a this is an extreme sport where, you know, you got, you're on a fine line, you're riding it, or maybe you're sucked under and not riding anymore. So I've just love to hear a story from you about maybe a close call, or a moment where you had to then trust in you know, I loved hearing about how you said you brought your friend with you and said, Do you want to paddle now? And almost like giving your body over to letting that person experience it, and even experiencing your own body through imagining, or, I don't know, so if magic is right word, but just like opening yourself up to letting somebody another energy come in to move you along, can you just talk a little bit more about that? Because I find this stuff fascinating.

Polly Green:

Yeah, well, I do it all the time, especially with that friend on the other side, because he was, like, a hardcore adventure person, like he was a really great kayaker. He loved adventure, and so do I, and we even talked about going to India together before he crossed over and stuff. And he was good at riding motorcycles, and I, so I do it with him on the river all the time, and with another friend of mine that's crossed over. I asked them to come with me all the time, and I can feel them, and they get so excited. They're like, yeah. And then also when I'm in a pinch. And I want to add, I want to share this for everybody to know, this that your loved ones on the other side want to help you. They are there to help. But we on this side have to ask, and this is like a crucial thing that I don't know if everybody knows. So it's kind of like, you pick up the phone and you call them spiritually, and you're like, Hey, mom or grandma or friend, I need help with this, and a lot of times it works out best if that person was good at that thing in this lifetime. So like with my kayaking friends, I asked them to help me with, you know, kayaking things, or like my grandmother was really good at business, so I asked her to help me with business things, stuff like that. So they are there to help us, and they want to. Help, but we have to ask. So it's kind of like a two way conversation. That's a really important thing to know. And like, with my one adventure friend, like, I was motorcycling in India, and I'm not a good motorcycler. I I just got this call to go motorcycle to monasteries in India. Really, like, I was scared of, like, driving a little scooter in Bali. I was like, okay, so anyways, I did by myself. I didn't even have like, motorcycle outfit or anything. I was, like, wearing my yoga outfit, and I ended up on the highest motorable road in the world, in India by myself, being like a beginner motorcycler, okay, like, anyways, so I was in some very perilous situations. Well, I would call my friend, like, hope. Like, at one point it was like sleeting. I had, like, cotton pants on no gloves. I couldn't even work the brakes. I mean, I was in this on this Himalayan road that had no guard warehouse, there's no people. I was like, Holy crap. This is pretty bad. And then I called him in. Somehow, miraculously, I didn't crash. There was a guy on the side in the middle and over this guy on the side, you know, it is in India. He's like, room, room. Like, I'm like, I pull over without even crashing. They like, make me try. They have, like, a room, I mean, stuff like that, like these miraculous type things can really save us in these times where we need help, but we have to really ask,

Todd McLaughlin:

Yeah, amazing. Holy cow, Paul, you're a solid adventurer. Yeah, pretty solid adventure. But I want

Polly Green:

to say, I love it. I love it naive sometimes, which gets a long way. I mean, these other adventures, I'm like, let's just learn how to ride a motorcycle. It's pretty funny. I mean, I don't know it's I also get lucky, but I, but I also I follow guidance, you know, and, like, I was really guided on that mode. Well, I did it twice, but, like, two, these two motorcycle trips. I was like, I was obsessed. It was like, I had to go. I'm like, well, if I'm being called to do this, I'm going to be okay. Like, I so a lot of it's trust and faith and asking my other side team for help. And then, you know what happened Todd? People would just show up out of nowhere, like a few times. I did have little crashes, not big crashes, but just like little ones, the motorcycle, as you know, it was a Royal Enfield. You know those real big, heavy bikes they have in India, the bullet. You're probably seeing them bunch. But I couldn't lift it up by myself. It was so heavy. And I'm pretty small, and these guys would, like, just show up out of nowhere. I'd be in the middle of, you know, the mountains, and, like, all of a sudden, there's four guys there helping me lift up my bike.

Todd McLaughlin:

Oh my gosh, Holly, that is awesome. That is so,

Polly Green:

yeah, so like to just inspire people that maybe like are unsure, or whatever. I would say that intuition, or when you get that, like nudge, or it's a very quiet voice, and to be able to listen to that and follow that, because that's your own internal guidance system, like leading you on your path. And I believe it's for our own growth, you know, our own personal growth in this lifetime, to learn these lessons, whatever they are. And a lot of times it's going to be that little whisper, yeah. And it probably for you, or most people won't, be like, go ride your motorcycle to monasteries in the Himalayas. Like, that was a pretty extreme example. But, like, you know, maybe it's like, go do this thing that you never really thought of, or maybe it's scary,

Todd McLaughlin:

right, right? Go,

Polly Green:

be able to kind of take that next step into these things that scare us. Yes? Because a lot of times facing the fear, yeah, is where we really grow.

Todd McLaughlin:

It doesn't it seem like when you stare fear down, it just goes poof into a little bit of smoke and it's gone. It's almost like these little fear monsters that creep in and just go, wait, I'm gonna stop running, I'm gonna turn face you, and then just they're gone. It's just, yeah, wow, Polly, you know what? Oh my gosh. Time goes by too fast. I we can find you your website, Polly, and the other side.com, link will be in the description, Instagram at Poly, dot and dot the other side. I can't wait to talk to you again. I know we're gonna have another conversation, but I just want to see if there's any closing is there anything that you feel called to share?

Polly Green:

Yeah, if I was to talk to people that are. Listening I would in a lot of what I find just so empowering personally is to learn to trust yourself and trust that voice and trust your intuition. And like you said earlier, a lot of times we're not taught how to do that, and usually we're taught to question it or not listen to it, and but the more we listen to that little voice inside, the more we're going to be guided on our path to things that maybe you couldn't even imagine. And that's what's so exciting and cool about life. So I That's my kind of final takeaway. Is to trust that inner voice and that that little spark inside that might lead you down a road that you weren't expecting, but take that road. That's what I'm here to

Todd McLaughlin:

say, beautiful. You know, I also want to give a special thanks to Becky Durkin, who came in, took a yoga class, and we started talking, and she said, You really got to meet my cousin, Polly, and hence, then I found you wrote you, and here we are. So thank you, Becky, so much. And thank you, Polly, this has been a real pleasure. And I just, I love hearing your stories, and thank you for being so open and sharing and just kind and patient. And just really enjoyed this. Thank you,

Polly Green:

I really did too. Thank you so much, Todd. It's been awesome. Thank you.

Todd McLaughlin:

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